Comments on: Pandormonium in Education http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/ Cartoon Blog on Politics, Economics and wonky Life in general Tue, 07 Sep 2010 06:37:08 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: IPL cricket rescues South Africa from negative growth - Cartoon | Wonkie http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/#comment-1590 IPL cricket rescues South Africa from negative growth - Cartoon | Wonkie Thu, 14 May 2009 11:28:02 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandormonium-in-education/#comment-1590 [...] be immune to the current global financial crisis. Wonkie is not sure if it’s the result of Naledi Pandor’s outcome-based education disaster or some severe recruitment errors in financial circles but it appears some senior economists have [...] [...] be immune to the current global financial crisis. Wonkie is not sure if it’s the result of Naledi Pandor’s outcome-based education disaster or some severe recruitment errors in financial circles but it appears some senior economists have [...]

]]> By: Cartoon - Zumas South African cabinet dream team - 2009 elections | Wonkie http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/#comment-1355 Cartoon - Zumas South African cabinet dream team - 2009 elections | Wonkie Tue, 05 May 2009 06:05:13 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandormonium-in-education/#comment-1355 [...] Naledi Pandor - Education because Pandor has proven that the current education strategy of keeping rural South Africa under-educated makes it easier to win elections. After all, ignorance is bliss and at least this way most of South Africa stays happy. [...] [...] Naledi Pandor – Education because Pandor has proven that the current education strategy of keeping rural South Africa under-educated makes it easier to win elections. After all, ignorance is bliss and at least this way most of South Africa stays happy. [...]

]]> By: gugue http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/#comment-1241 gugue Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:13:56 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandormonium-in-education/#comment-1241 seriously e education system in our country sucks.Naledi shld d oosmething and fast cos they wnt b a b8r 2mrw or leaders if the education system is so low.And wats w e lowering of pass mark, dats e most ridiculous thing iv eva heard.who would want to employ sme1 w a low pass rate.i min its an insult to this nation and to every parent that works and want to c their kids succeed.it is rather diasppointing. seriously e education system in our country sucks.Naledi shld d oosmething and fast cos they wnt b a b8r 2mrw or leaders if the education system is so low.And wats w e lowering of pass mark, dats e most ridiculous thing iv eva heard.who would want to employ sme1 w a low pass rate.i min its an insult to this nation and to every parent that works and want to c their kids succeed.it is rather diasppointing.

]]> By: Oprah Winfrey's Leadership Academy in South Africa - Cartoon | Wonkie http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/#comment-1185 Oprah Winfrey's Leadership Academy in South Africa - Cartoon | Wonkie Thu, 16 Apr 2009 08:15:40 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandormonium-in-education/#comment-1185 [...] with the skills they need to be productive South Africans. Be sure to check out the cartoon on the Naledi Pandor outcome-based education disaster for context. (Choose a star and click it to rate this cartoon)  Loading ... Enjoyed this [...] [...] with the skills they need to be productive South Africans. Be sure to check out the cartoon on the Naledi Pandor outcome-based education disaster for context. (Choose a star and click it to rate this cartoon)  Loading … Enjoyed this [...]

]]> By: nomfundo http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/#comment-1127 nomfundo Thu, 09 Apr 2009 09:05:52 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandormonium-in-education/#comment-1127 Good Day My name is Nomfundo Gqadu , I am a mother of this amazing 10year old girl. She is very good in art and if she draw some thing it comes exactly the way it was. Oh what can I do I don’t want this gift to fall away. Every time she is drawing, at school even at home she will be busy eating but drawing at the same time please help my baby girl she has a gift and I would like her to develop it at this stage and to follow her hearts desire. Please help my gilr [personal contact details removed by moderators] Thank you so much Good Day
My name is Nomfundo Gqadu , I am a mother of this amazing 10year old girl. She is very good in art and if she draw some thing it comes exactly the way it was. Oh what can I do I don’t want this gift to fall away. Every time she is drawing, at school even at home she will be busy eating but drawing at the same time please help my baby girl she has a gift and I would like her to develop it at this stage and to follow her hearts desire. Please help my gilr

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]]> By: Simpiwe K http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/#comment-598 Simpiwe K Wed, 04 Feb 2009 10:46:39 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandormonium-in-education/#comment-598 mzwakhe - I'm with you. education should have been a priority for the ANC and I really feel they have failed us on this. we cannot uplift unless we have the skills to take the country forward ourselves. mzwakhe – I’m with you. education should have been a priority for the ANC and I really feel they have failed us on this. we cannot uplift unless we have the skills to take the country forward ourselves.

]]> By: mzwakhe http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/#comment-587 mzwakhe Tue, 03 Feb 2009 08:37:00 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandormonium-in-education/#comment-587 This obe system sucks This obe system sucks

]]> By: PM http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/#comment-490 PM Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:32:21 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandormonium-in-education/#comment-490 Drake, Alex, theglassbird - I think you're all pointing out an underlying lack of faith in the actual mark that student's are receiving from schools. Lowering of standards and pass marks to make the DoE statistics look good benefit neither employers nor students in the long run. It only makes the DoE look good and that for me is useless. What is likely to happen is that tertiary institutions and employers of school leavers will introduce their own standardised exam to evaluate the quality of the candidate - this is similar to the SATs and GMAT exams students abroad need to write to get into tertiary education institutions. It would be quite interesting to see the national pass rate or scores on that standardised exam - at least it would mean something about the student's potential. Drake, Alex, theglassbird – I think you’re all pointing out an underlying lack of faith in the actual mark that student’s are receiving from schools. Lowering of standards and pass marks to make the DoE statistics look good benefit neither employers nor students in the long run. It only makes the DoE look good and that for me is useless.

What is likely to happen is that tertiary institutions and employers of school leavers will introduce their own standardised exam to evaluate the quality of the candidate – this is similar to the SATs and GMAT exams students abroad need to write to get into tertiary education institutions. It would be quite interesting to see the national pass rate or scores on that standardised exam – at least it would mean something about the student’s potential.

]]> By: theglassbird http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/#comment-489 theglassbird Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:18:19 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandormonium-in-education/#comment-489 People and maybe mrs Pandor think that once you got a degree or a certificate you can do the job. I work in building and my boss has taken in a number of student quantity surveyors doing practicals for a long time now, just ask him how they've been gradually been getting worse and worse he's completely amazed that some of them even passed first year. It works both ways with the marks, not just marks going up. My sister has just matriculated. After recieving A's for history throughout school suddenly her and all of the other top history students marks were barely above the pass mark. Strangely enough students who were struggling with their history mark suddenlgy found themselves getting B's and C's. Their school approached the department to show them this and now they want to charge them money for a remark! Good thing its only history and not something that would intefere with her getting into architecture this year, she's a bright girl. People and maybe mrs Pandor think that once you got a degree or a certificate you can do the job. I work in building and my boss has taken in a number of student quantity surveyors doing practicals for a long time now, just ask him how they’ve been gradually been getting worse and worse he’s completely amazed that some of them even passed first year.
It works both ways with the marks, not just marks going up. My sister has just matriculated. After recieving A’s for history throughout school suddenly her and all of the other top history students marks were barely above the pass mark. Strangely enough students who were struggling with their history mark suddenlgy found themselves getting B’s and C’s. Their school approached the department to show them this and now they want to charge them money for a remark! Good thing its only history and not something that would intefere with her getting into architecture this year, she’s a bright girl.

]]> By: Alex R http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandor-pass-rate-failure/#comment-488 Alex R Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:38:04 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/01/14/pandormonium-in-education/#comment-488 Drake - I hear you. I've had the same experience myself. Who ever heard of dozens of students getting 100% in math exams in our student days? The standards have definitely dropped... Children are passing out of schools but it is no longer an indication that they even know the basics for menial jobs, let alone readiness for university or college education. Drake – I hear you. I’ve had the same experience myself. Who ever heard of dozens of students getting 100% in math exams in our student days? The standards have definitely dropped… Children are passing out of schools but it is no longer an indication that they even know the basics for menial jobs, let alone readiness for university or college education.

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