Comments on: Motlanthe addresses the G20 summit http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/ Cartoon Blog on Politics, Economics and wonky Life in general Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:22:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Cartoon - Barack Obama's first 100 days and beyond | Wonkie http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1691 Cartoon - Barack Obama's first 100 days and beyond | Wonkie Thu, 21 May 2009 05:26:25 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1691 [...] that he has made thus far is enormous. He has been hailed in the UK as the ‘messiah’. At the 2009 G20 summit in London leaders jostled to get photographed with him. And his trip to France was greeted with such fanfare [...] [...] that he has made thus far is enormous. He has been hailed in the UK as the ‘messiah’. At the 2009 G20 summit in London leaders jostled to get photographed with him. And his trip to France was greeted with such fanfare [...]

]]> By: Sizwe http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1091 Sizwe Tue, 07 Apr 2009 07:09:48 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1091 Thabo - it's definitely the right head dude! Think you missed out on our cartoon post last year on the topic (which was incidently runner up for the best post on a South African blog in 2008 at the SA Blog Awards last week!) - check out the <strong><a href="http://www.wonkie.com/2008/12/12/bring-me-the-head-of-kgalema-motlanthe/" rel="nofollow">Bring me the head of Kgalema Motlanthe cartoon</a></strong> Thabo – it’s definitely the right head dude!

Think you missed out on our cartoon post last year on the topic (which was incidently runner up for the best post on a South African blog in 2008 at the SA Blog Awards last week!) – check out the Bring me the head of Kgalema Motlanthe cartoon

]]> By: thabo http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1090 thabo Mon, 06 Apr 2009 19:57:45 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1090 Wrong head dude, I know they look alike one bald (zuma) other not (Kgalema) Wrong head dude, I know they look alike one bald (zuma) other not (Kgalema)

]]> By: PM http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1089 PM Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:01:10 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1089 Semaj, Wonkie sees no problem at all with your observation and to some extent agrees with it. A few important points though: 1. Protectionism as proven in the last century with, for example, the steel industry in the US, actually plays out well as populist economic policy. However history has shown that these measures cost the country implementing the policies more - both in terms of long term employment and wealth creation than had those policies not been implemented and the market remained competitive. The argument for us is more for the richer nations not to get sidelined by policies that increase local popularity and confidence, but rather to focus on those policies together with their trading partners that secure the quickest possible recovery for the system <strong>as a whole</strong> - even if this means slightly more short term pain. 2. From a purely capitalist perspective, rich nations <strong>do not</strong> owe the poor. The US and other economic powerhouses worked hard to get where they are and Wonkie can see your point of view. The concept of moral responsibility however is a tricky one and lies outside the scope of the pure capitalism debate. The argument is if the rich countries manipulated and abused resources (be it raw materials, minerals, or even labour) belonging to poor countries to enrich themselves in the first place, surely they owe something to those countries - particularly if they used those resources in a non-sustainable way leaving those countries worse off in the long run? Semaj, Wonkie sees no problem at all with your observation and to some extent agrees with it. A few important points though:

1. Protectionism as proven in the last century with, for example, the steel industry in the US, actually plays out well as populist economic policy. However history has shown that these measures cost the country implementing the policies more – both in terms of long term employment and wealth creation than had those policies not been implemented and the market remained competitive. The argument for us is more for the richer nations not to get sidelined by policies that increase local popularity and confidence, but rather to focus on those policies together with their trading partners that secure the quickest possible recovery for the system as a whole – even if this means slightly more short term pain.

2. From a purely capitalist perspective, rich nations do not owe the poor. The US and other economic powerhouses worked hard to get where they are and Wonkie can see your point of view. The concept of moral responsibility however is a tricky one and lies outside the scope of the pure capitalism debate. The argument is if the rich countries manipulated and abused resources (be it raw materials, minerals, or even labour) belonging to poor countries to enrich themselves in the first place, surely they owe something to those countries – particularly if they used those resources in a non-sustainable way leaving those countries worse off in the long run?

]]> By: Semaj http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1086 Semaj Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:33:33 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1086 Wonkie, I have a probelm. The problem is, I have nothing against rich nations getting progressively more protectionist, protecting their own wealth and people. Worse, I'm not really sure how much rich nations or rich individuals owe the poor. As for globalisation, I can't help feeling that negativity can be expected when something isn't working. Nevertheless, I take your point. Semaj. Wonkie, I have a probelm. The problem is, I have nothing against rich nations getting progressively more protectionist, protecting their own wealth and people. Worse, I’m not really sure how much rich nations or rich individuals owe the poor.
As for globalisation, I can’t help feeling that negativity can be expected when something isn’t working. Nevertheless, I take your point. Semaj.

]]> By: Tom Humes http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1078 Tom Humes Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:08:41 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/04/03/motlanthe-addresses-the-g20-summit/#comment-1078 Nice Site layout for your blog. I am looking forward to reading more from you. Tom Humes Nice Site layout for your blog. I am looking forward to reading more from you.

Tom Humes

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