Comments on: Let’s nationalise Tokyo! http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/ Cartoon Blog on Politics, Economics and wonky Life in general Tue, 07 Sep 2010 06:37:08 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: dirk http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/#comment-6655 dirk Tue, 04 May 2010 16:11:04 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/lets-nationalise-tokyo/#comment-6655 If I call a fool a genius, I'd be a liar and a bigger fool than what any african can ever be. You keep makin a fool of yourself every time , FOOL! It was and still is the english speakers who steal africa's reasources ( resources africans would never even have known about - and still don't understand. ) and still do as they are still loyal to their queen on the island. Was it not for us AFRIKANER BOERE who protected it, there would have been nothing left long asgo! Now with your stupid corrupt government in power, it will all be given away to the chincs soon! Who will you blame then...us Boere again? YOU ARE SUCH FOOLS that I can't even find words to explain it! YOU POOR FOOLS! Afrikaners don't own mines..it's mostly the sexwales and pandor's and oppenheimers and english speakers! Most of the time us Boere are working shoulder to shoulder in those mine with you blacks! YOU POOR FOOL..go have you eyes tested or take that sunglasses with the chrome frames off that you think make you look so fancy so you can see what's happening around you! ;) Those sunglases make you wander in darkness even in bright daylight! YOU FOOL! If I call a fool a genius, I’d be a liar and a bigger fool than what any african can ever be.

You keep makin a fool of yourself every time , FOOL! It was and still is the english speakers who steal africa’s reasources ( resources africans would never even have known about – and still don’t understand. ) and still do as they are still loyal to their queen on the island. Was it not for us AFRIKANER BOERE who protected it, there would have been nothing left long asgo! Now with your stupid corrupt government in power, it will all be given away to the chincs soon! Who will you blame then…us Boere again? YOU ARE SUCH FOOLS that I can’t even find words to explain it! YOU POOR FOOLS! Afrikaners don’t own mines..it’s mostly the sexwales and pandor’s and oppenheimers and english speakers! Most of the time us Boere are working shoulder to shoulder in those mine with you blacks! YOU POOR FOOL..go have you eyes tested or take that sunglasses with the chrome frames off that you think make you look so fancy so you can see what’s happening around you! ;) Those sunglases make you wander in darkness even in bright daylight! YOU FOOL!

]]> By: Mzulungile Cabanga http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/#comment-6645 Mzulungile Cabanga Tue, 04 May 2010 11:18:44 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/lets-nationalise-tokyo/#comment-6645 Sorry Dirk it seems to me as if you are the biggest fool here and you still have the arrogance of your forefathers who raped Africa of its resources. There is only one problem with you and that is racism which I'm afraid will never prevail again. How can you call Africans fools that is disrespectful from a person who engages himself in debates of this caliber. You fool!!! Sorry Dirk it seems to me as if you are the biggest fool here and you still have the arrogance of your forefathers who raped Africa of its resources. There is only one problem with you and that is racism which I’m afraid will never prevail again. How can you call Africans fools that is disrespectful from a person who engages himself in debates of this caliber. You fool!!!

]]> By: dirk http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/#comment-5937 dirk Sun, 04 Apr 2010 10:48:38 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/lets-nationalise-tokyo/#comment-5937 Mzulungile Cabanga Firstly, a "worker" is somebody who likes to work while a "labourer" is a lazy and stupid somebody who needs to be told to work - africa is a place of laboureres, not workers! One thing nobody in africa seems to understand is the fact that some people have brains and others don't! Labourers just don't have what it takes to manage and plan a mine so how the hell do you expect the mine to stay profitable with idiots running it? It's one thing to dig a hole after under supervision after somebody told you to dig the hole and where to dig that hole but quite another thing to run the finances of a mine without supervision or somebody telling you to do so! Within 3 years after nationalising the mines, there will be nothing left of it and all those who work there will be roaming the streets to steal whatever is still left to get stolen! Mzulungile Cabanga, If the labourers had what it takes to run big business, how come they are labourers and not CEO's? But if you fools do nationalise the mines, I hope you start at the sexwales and the pandors as black owned mines surely are also the ones care the least about their workforce! Mzulungile Cabanga

Firstly, a “worker” is somebody who likes to work while a “labourer” is a lazy and stupid somebody who needs to be told to work – africa is a place of laboureres, not workers!

One thing nobody in africa seems to understand is the fact that some people have brains and others don’t! Labourers just don’t have what it takes to manage and plan a mine so how the hell do you expect the mine to stay profitable with idiots running it?

It’s one thing to dig a hole after under supervision after somebody told you to dig the hole and where to dig that hole but quite another thing to run the finances of a mine without supervision or somebody telling you to do so!

Within 3 years after nationalising the mines, there will be nothing left of it and all those who work there will be roaming the streets to steal whatever is still left to get stolen!

Mzulungile Cabanga, If the labourers had what it takes to run big business, how come they are labourers and not CEO’s?

But if you fools do nationalise the mines, I hope you start at the sexwales and the pandors as black owned mines surely are also the ones care the least about their workforce!

]]> By: Mzulungile Cabanga http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/#comment-5920 Mzulungile Cabanga Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:00:09 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/lets-nationalise-tokyo/#comment-5920 Nationalisation can be done under one circumstance and that is Nationalising mines and leave them under worker control in the form of co-operatives. Not this nationalisation that the youth league is chanting cause that is only a bailout of Motsepe & Sexwale. Nationalisation can be done under one circumstance and that is Nationalising mines and leave them under worker control in the form of co-operatives. Not this nationalisation that the youth league is chanting cause that is only a bailout of Motsepe & Sexwale.

]]> By: Dirk Muller http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/#comment-3763 Dirk Muller Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:21:49 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/lets-nationalise-tokyo/#comment-3763 "You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it." ~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931 “You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”

~~~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931

]]> By: Dirk Muller http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/#comment-3762 Dirk Muller Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:26:28 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/lets-nationalise-tokyo/#comment-3762 Phelandaba wa Sekgale Looks like you have a ceiling above your thoughts...To tax somebody 100% is to ensure only the only the gamblers, the idiots like the zuma mamparras who can 't even run their household budgets will stay behind...all the rest will just leave to do business somewhere else like what happened in Zim when the idiot mugabe mamparra made it law to sell everything below cost at half prise! It shows that mugabe can't even run a supermarket but the zims wanted him to be leader and run their country! I wish I can figure out on what merrits africans choose their leaders as brains and wisdom surely is not what africans look for in a leader! :D Phelandaba wa Sekgale

Looks like you have a ceiling above your thoughts…To tax somebody 100% is to ensure only the only the gamblers, the idiots like the zuma mamparras who can ‘t even run their household budgets will stay behind…all the rest will just leave to do business somewhere else like what happened in Zim when the idiot mugabe mamparra made it law to sell everything below cost at half prise! It shows that mugabe can’t even run a supermarket but the zims wanted him to be leader and run their country!

I wish I can figure out on what merrits africans choose their leaders as brains and wisdom surely is not what africans look for in a leader! :D

]]> By: Phelandaba wa Sekgale http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/#comment-3761 Phelandaba wa Sekgale Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:13:52 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/lets-nationalise-tokyo/#comment-3761 Wonkie I agree with you that the nationalisation of individual’s wealth is not the correct prescription for our ailing economy. There are various options available to the country to reverse the runaway trends of inequalities within the country. Bearing in mind that some of our citizen’s inequality and/or poverty is self-inflicted, such as irredeemable gamblers, reckless spenders who engage in conspicuous consumption and criminals who hatch get-rich-quickly schemes; these can be safely excluded from our econometrix model. The first prescription the economy needs is to establish a “CEILING” and a “FLOOR”. The ceiling is that level of income above which no one should be; any income above the ceiling should be taxed 100%. Whereas the floor will represent that level of income below which no one should be. This system will take care of those willing to work and exclude those lazy citizens of our country who would not want to take-up any job because the remuniration in that sector is very low. Domestic servants, farmworkers etc will benefit from such an arrangement and no one will be entitled to any basic income grant. The guiding policy should be “Those that are abled bodied and do not work shall not eat”. The second prescription will be the institution of “INHERITANCE”; no doubt this institution needs to be modified. It is an institution that harbours many lazy people. The bulk of the inheritance funds should be available to the state for re-distribution particularly to persons who have been responsible for the creation of that wealth. For example, people who have been instrumental in creating the wealths of the Openheimers, Motsepes and Segwales are often left destitute after their demise while their families leave in obscene opulance. Wonkie I agree with you that the nationalisation of individual’s wealth is not the correct prescription for our ailing economy. There are various options available to the country to reverse the runaway trends of inequalities within the country. Bearing in mind that some of our citizen’s inequality and/or poverty is self-inflicted, such as irredeemable gamblers, reckless spenders who engage in conspicuous consumption and criminals who hatch get-rich-quickly schemes; these can be safely excluded from our econometrix model. The first prescription the economy needs is to establish a “CEILING” and a “FLOOR”. The ceiling is that level of income above which no one should be; any income above the ceiling should be taxed 100%. Whereas the floor will represent that level of income below which no one should be. This system will take care of those willing to work and exclude those lazy citizens of our country who would not want to take-up any job because the remuniration in that sector is very low. Domestic servants, farmworkers etc will benefit from such an arrangement and no one will be entitled to any basic income grant. The guiding policy should be “Those that are abled bodied and do not work shall not eat”. The second prescription will be the institution of “INHERITANCE”; no doubt this institution needs to be modified. It is an institution that harbours many lazy people. The bulk of the inheritance funds should be available to the state for re-distribution particularly to persons who have been responsible for the creation of that wealth. For example, people who have been instrumental in creating the wealths of the Openheimers, Motsepes and Segwales are often left destitute after their demise while their families leave in obscene opulance.

]]> By: Dirk Muller http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/#comment-3760 Dirk Muller Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:32:33 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/lets-nationalise-tokyo/#comment-3760 Chanderpaul, Why vote for him then? Why vote for any ANC member then? NOT one of them ever cared about the poor - eventually you will all have to agree that you were beter off in the past before the so called "liberation"...there are nou more laws than ever before..just the police are to useless and stupid to enforce them.. :D Chanderpaul,

Why vote for him then? Why vote for any ANC member then? NOT one of them ever cared about the poor – eventually you will all have to agree that you were beter off in the past before the so called “liberation”…there are nou more laws than ever before..just the police are to useless and stupid to enforce them.. :D

]]> By: Dirk Muller http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/#comment-3759 Dirk Muller Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:28:45 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/lets-nationalise-tokyo/#comment-3759 Tim, Do I get you right? Were you/workers forced to contibute to the SACP? How were you/workers forced? Who forced you/workers ? Tell us more please? One thing about africans tha I don't understand ...one taxi arrive in a township with 200 000 residents and then that one taxi with 10 people manage to force the 200 000 residents to do whatever the 10 people with the taxi want them to do...how does this work? Tim,

Do I get you right? Were you/workers forced to contibute to the SACP? How were you/workers forced? Who forced you/workers ? Tell us more please?

One thing about africans tha I don’t understand …one taxi arrive in a township with 200 000 residents and then that one taxi with 10 people manage to force the 200 000 residents to do whatever the 10 people with the taxi want them to do…how does this work?

]]> By: Dabishi Lutendo http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/unions-nationalise-tokyo-motsepe/#comment-3758 Dabishi Lutendo Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:23:30 +0000 http://www.wonkie.com/2009/11/03/lets-nationalise-tokyo/#comment-3758 i think to nationlize individuals wealth is only good if personnel agrieng with that, again to my sit i think it motivate people to keep improving thinking one day will be there. i think to nationlize individuals wealth is only good if personnel agrieng with that, again to my sit i think it motivate people to keep improving thinking one day will be there.

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