Games Gods play cartoon

Games Gods play cartoon

The Games Gods Play

After covering natural disasters of a different sort over the last month, Wonkie thinks its readers deserve a short break from that trauma. 2010 is off to an intense start all over the world. Besides the obvious excitement about the 2010 FIFA world cup, the world is in quite a state following a spate of Acts of God(s).

Since the start of the year hundreds of thousands died in an earthquake in Haiti. And following that there has been one disaster after the next:

– serious storms and flooding in Europe in the middle of a harsh winter;

– an earthquake in Chile which was one of the most powerful ever recorded anywhere in the world coming in at 8.8 on the Richter scale – an earthquake of such magnitude that it was felt across the South American continent in Sao Paolo some 2,900 km away;

– then a number of tsunamis in the Pacific as part of the aftermath of the Chile earthquake;

– moving to chillier climes, last month an iceberg the size of Luxembourg broke away in a daring escape from the continent of Antarctica – though the full impact of this may not be immediate, scientists fear that the rogue iceberg will adversely affect ocean currents, marine life and weather patterns the world over; and

– earlier today, the government of Fiji declared a State of Disaster after a devastating category 4 cyclone tore through the Pacific islands – more than 17,000 people have left their homes and fled to evacuation centres already

All this begs the question, what has the world done to make the Gods and Chuck Norris angry and how much more ruthless will They be in the months to come?

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  1. this was a f-up cartoon

  2. Chris Swanepoel says:

    I think it is in the worst taste possible!!!!Despicable to say the least.There is no respect for human dignity any more , let alone for God. No wonder with cartoonists like you!!!!

  3. Coenie Swanepoel says:

    Using humor to coupe with tragic / horrific occurrences is and has always been a very human response. So please Chris, psyko, let go of your holier selves and act a little more human and learn smile more.

  4. blasphemous

  5. I’m not a church goer or a happy clapper but this was decidedly crass and uncalled for…….the idea behind the question of Natural Disasters was a good one…but the awful language and blasphemy was childish and stopped one concentrating on the question at hand…..i expect more of Wonkie who usually really sets the cat amongst the pigeons and gets debating going – but this was a regrettable way to attempt to do it….try again…and get back to just the normal humerous way you usually do it……please!

  6. Lighten up! It is only a cartoon. I am sure God has got a sense of humour! Otherwise he would have zapped us all.

  7. Hastheworldgonecrazy... says:

    GREAT cartoon, Wonkie, you my HERO! Chris & psyko…… GET A LIFE! Well, if there IS a God, clearly he is a tad pissed off with us. We have been lousy tenants, and we can’t really blame him for throwing all his toys out! However, the more logical and sane explanation……We’ve done it ourselves, we are such clever, innovative little Destroyers-of-Nature, with our plastic, MacDonalds, pumping raw sewage into the sea, logging in Asia and killing off the tigers…..this could take a LONG time, and a lot of space.

  8. BRILLIANT Wonkie!! LOL! Although I think the meek may choose to disinherit you now – hopefully, they’re brave enough to leave a comment instead and let us all know why they think their GOD IS A GOOD GOD when there is much pain and suffering in the world.

    To those guys all I have to say is earthquakes, cyclones etc are NOT a result of free will – they are called Acts of God for a reason and they do not discriminate who they affect. That is just plain cruel – if there is a God that is.

  9. Are you sure that God exists ?

  10. South Africa is ready to host world cup, and people must know that every country has got weaknesses and strength,stop critsizing us, we are going to host this game like it or not,you ghost you belong to hell. Go South Africa Go!! we are right behind you no matter what the ghost say foward we go!!!the Lord will supply all, he will never mislead us.

  11. Whilst I acknowledge God, I don’t believe he’s fully responsible for ALL these ‘natural disasters’. We humans are ‘mostly’ responsible. With all the underwater and underground nuclear testings leading to a direct result of the fracturing of the foundations ‘holding earth together’. Man has, and, will invariably lead to his own death.

  12. Why does it always have to be someone or some mythical super force that needs to be blamed when any natural disaster/disease occurs?

  13. Daluxolo says:

    That is global warming in action

  14. This is a fullfillment of the propheths about things which must happen during “last days” see Matt. 24:3-14; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; Luke 17:26-30; Luke 21:7-11. Instead of mourning about this it better to make sure that your relationship with GOD is right becasue when this world passes only the righeous will live on this earth forever see John 3:16; 10:27, 28; 17:3; Mark 10:29, 30; Eccl. 1:4; Isa. 45:18; Ps. 78:69.

  15. vilakazi khaphata says:

    Leaders of this world need to make a strong decision on how to face the occurrances. Be they from God or from our developmrnt goals. There is plenty that our existance has destroyed in many aspects eg deployment of mixiles/creation of bombs /use of war chemicals……..

  16. Come on Wonkie.I may swear and use strong language,but i never make light of our Saviour Jesus Christ. PLEASE REMOVE THIS CARTOON.

  17. Nothing I could say would make any difference. I’ve always enjoyed your humour, but this is totally unacceptable. Crass, blasphemous in the extreme (you better believe it!) and, whether you believe it or not, you will be called to account for your actions. I am caught between two feelings: just not able to decide whether to be disgusted with you, or whether to pity you. I must condemn your action on this one with revulsion. Caveat emptor!

  18. Hey Moxie—Dont u know your Bible or dont you believe in God. We were warned never to use His name in vain. Yes it is only a cartoon,but in very bad taste.

  19. Ol' Pliny says:

    Only lawyers call it ‘Acts of God’ because they know you can’t sue him.
    The correct truism being ‘Acts of Men’. I’m glad you made this cartoon.
    It’s the ozone hole, deforestation, pollution of seas and rivers, burning of
    fossil fuels, etc. Mother nature, (not Father God) can no longer adapt.
    It’s irreversible and was foretold: “The time has come to destroy those who destroy the earth.”
    (Rev 11:18 Good News Bible)

    Seeing a few (like Becks) don’t want to hear God’s views on this matter, I think I will just sit this one out
    and read what the hopefuls have to say. When I was young we used to say: “You have a hope and a half,
    and a belly full of soap.” Let man now, eat to satisfaction, that which he has greedily sowed.

  20. Anything or anyone who cartoonises God is blasphemous and should be brought before Robert Mugabe for descipline and

  21. I also think it unnecessary to blaspheme.I do agree that humour,graveyard or other is actually a form of healing and even those in the middle of the tragedies find comic relief eventually.Look at the amazing humour of the British under the terrible bombings during WW 2.

  22. God does not play games and there are many gods but ONLY ONE ALMIGHTY: THE CREATOR . These disasters are obviously part of HIS plans for this world

  23. Ismail Moosa says:

    The Ahadith are replete with warnings that certain
    actions will bring certain specific conditions. In other
    words these particular actions are a cause which will
    bring about an effect. In a concise Hadith narrated by
    Hazrath Abu Hurairah (R.A.) Rasulullah (sallallahu
    alaihi wasallam) is reported to have said:
    1. “When the spoils of war (or other possessions
    which are jointly owned by many people) will be
    regarded as personal property,
    2. When trust will be treated like booty
    (i.e. the trustees themselves will usurp the trust),
    3. When charity will be regarded as a tax (this refers
    to it being treated as a burden i.e. the 2½% that has to
    be discharged will seem to be a mountain),
    4. When knowledge of religion will be sought for
    purposes other than religion (i.e. it will instead be
    acquired for worldly benefits),
    5. When a person will obey his wife (in things that
    contradict Shari’ah) and will disobey his mother (in
    permissible things),
    6. When the friend will be close to one and the father
    will be kept far away (i.e. the father will be treated
    like a stranger),
    7. When voices will be raised in places of worship (in
    personal talk. Worldly talk is not permitted in places of worship at all. Even permissible conversations must be
    in a hushed tone even though nobody else is there
    who could be disturbed),
    8. When the sinners will become leaders,
    9. When the leader of a people will be the most
    worthless among them,
    10. When a person will be honoured merely out of
    fear for his evil,
    11. When singing girls and musical instruments will
    become rife,
    12. When liquor (intoxicants) will be consumed
    (openly),
    13. When the latter part of this generation will curse the
    first part of the genearation (this is the hallmark of the
    Shia who curse and insult the Sahaaba [R.A.])
    THEN AWAIT VIOLENT WINDS ,
    EARTHQUAKES, PEOPLE BEING SWALLOWED
    UP BY THE EARTH, DISFIGUREMENT, STONES
    RAINING FROM THE SKY AND OTHER SIGNS
    WHICH WILL FOLLOW ONE AFTER ANOTHER
    LIKE BEADS OF A NECKLACE FOLLOWING
    ONE AFTER ANOTHER WHEN THE STRING IS
    CUT” (Tirmizi).

  24. 2012 hERE WE COME!!!

  25. Hey Wally I am a Christian who knows my Bible very well. As a child I got distinctions in Bible Knowledge. My God is a loving God unlike the vengeful God portrayed by many Christians. 🙂 🙂

  26. Wonkie, All who call upon the name of the Lord will be saved! We are living in the end times. The New Testament is full of prophecies and warning. Natural disasters are going to get worse; there will be famines, pestilences; people will be selfish and money-mad and many will be mockers of the Truth. However, not all who call themselves Christians will be saved – Math 25 vv31-46.
    Christianity is not for sissies! It is a narrow road, but the rewards at the end will be awesome!

  27. Get real answers by reading;
    BEYOND 2012
    Catastrophy or Awakening?
    A complete guide to End-of -Time Predictions
    Author: Geoff Stray

  28. Illuminatus says:

    Excellent cartoon. The gods,after all do have a sense of humour. They made us. But theres one character missing. Rambo

  29. Scorpio< Birch Acres says:

    Read up on Edgar Cayce – he predicted all this pre 1945. Christianity is taught by man made churces – Christ taught Gnostisism. It is both the Gnostic and Buddist belief that from 1998, the lower grade souls will not be allowed to return to earth for 1,000 years (by way of re-incarnation), only those souls that have been through ‘soul school (?)’ by way of many incarnations where they have betterd themselves in each life.

  30. Many scientists think they know much about the universe, it is time they should realise that they actually know nothing, not a piece about how nature controls itself.

  31. I do not honestly think it’s any of the above, what i know is that this world we live in is fast going to an END.
    God help us.

  32. bakenshark says:

    Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not..and a sense of humor to compensate him for what he is not..wonkie you know how to push the buttons!!!!!..damn that Chuck Norris! 🙂

  33. There is only One real God. The Creator of heaven and earth. His name is Jesus. He has warned us in His recorded Word, the bible that these things will happen in the last days. So earthly disasters will increase according prophesy. But man also played there part in trying to destroy planet earth with everything that they did

  34. Ol' Pliny says:

    There is another ‘Act of man’ I omitted in a previous message. Depletion of oil reserves.
    Sages usually have the answers to most problems, excepting when it comes to matters
    they cannot solve, EG: Evolution. Their findings must be based on science because God
    does not exist either in their hearts or in text books. Their usual claim is that oil deposits
    under the earth are from decayed peat moss and organic compounds. However, they were
    a little confused why coal and anthracite made from the same stuff remained hard and dry.
    Any one who owns a car knows that oil turns into thicker black sludge when contaminated
    How come oil is less dense than coal?

    Recently, they have another ‘theory’. As in the case of evolution, they have to find a ’cause’
    (The cause and effect theory) They now say that it is possible that the oil has always been there.
    How nice to hear that. So who put it there? Surely not the abba dabba dabba monkey.
    Why not rather believe that God put it there to ease the shifting of the tectonic plates. How else
    can we explain that only recently, since oil deposits are being rapidly depleted due to an ever
    increasing demand, are quakes more numerous. Did not Jesus say 2000 years ago earthquakes
    would greatly increase during the last days? (Luke 21:10, 11)

    Wikipedia supports other man made causes. Google ‘Causes of earthquakes’ paragraph
    ‘Induced seismicity’. Even should one doggedly stick to the first ‘theory’ on the cause of oil
    deposits, our wise Creator should nevertheless receive all the credit for having originated this
    cycle of matter changing to gas and oil. Scientists wont. They work on visible evidence not spirits.

  35. Hey what’s Chuck Norris doing up there? Doesn’t he know he is a mere mortal?

    How many times I’ve explained this to Wonkie…

    Chuck Norris = Mere Mortal
    Chuck Norris not equal to Immortal
    Hence Chuck Norris will one day leave the mortal coil…

    I hope Chuck is a good leader like the tree in my yard and has been smart enough to mentor some underlings else when he goes…who will be the secret weapon then?

    And admist all the tears that Wonkie will shed what will happen to US Homeland Security?! Oh right, right I forgot…Obama decided to hire SRK after his My Name is Khan and I’m not a terrorist stint! 🙂

    By the way I’ve always felt that Vishnu is a lazy kinda God sleeping on this ocean of nectar? Whilst having his feet massaged…nothing like the action oriented Shiv! LOL! Plus my God cartoons just out rock Wonkie’s! LOL! After all I engage in UCP! I say I win! 🙂

  36. francis janssen says:

    you must be very carefull what you say about GOD , you must never temp him , he is NOT a GOD to mock be carefull what you say ,just remeber that the tongue is mighty than the sword thank you francis

  37. Ha ha that is hilarious I blieve in God but i dont believe he is punishing us its just nature at its worst.

  38. i would please leave the name of jesus out of your discussions for GODso loved the world that he gave his only son to die for all sinners so that if you accepy him as your lord and saviour he will save you from eternal hell no he will not punsh you he would rather be patiant and see if he can not get you to repent and inherret eternal life

  39. One thing is clear, the world knows/acknowledge that Jesus is God, even if they don’t like Him! Even those who choose to mock Him or His existance, doing so, eventually acknowledge the fact that He IS the one and only true living God and yes, He gave this planet over to man ( Gen. 1:28 ), who gave it over to satan(Luke 4:5-6), who is now the god of this world ( john 12:31 and 2 Cor. 4:4).

    Therefore, because of the above mentioned scriptures, God brought something to satan’s attention using the word “behold”…..(Job1:12)…

    12 And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.

    So, to see what Bible teaches about who it is that cause all these things happening around us…

    So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD.
    13And there was a day when his sons and his daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother’s house: 14And there came a messenger unto Job, and said, The oxen were plowing, and the asses feeding beside them: 15And the Sabeans fell upon them, and took them away; yea, they have slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. 16While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The fire of God is fallen from heaven, and hath burned up the sheep, and the servants, and consumed them; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. 17While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, The Chaldeans made out three bands, and fell upon the camels, and have carried them away, yea, and slain the servants with the edge of the sword; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee. 18While he was yet speaking, there came also another, and said, Thy sons and thy daughters were eating and drinking wine in their eldest brother’s house: 19And, behold, there came a great wind from the wilderness, and smote the four corners of the house, and it fell upon the young men, and they are dead; and I only am escaped alone to tell thee.
    20Then Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his head, and fell down upon the ground, and worshipped, 21And said, Naked came I out of my mother’s womb, and naked shall I return thither: the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD. 22In all this Job sinned not, nor charged God foolishly.

    Chapter 2

    1Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD. 2And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. 3And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause. 4And Satan answered the LORD, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. 5But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. 6And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life.
    7So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown. 8And he took him a potsherd to scrape himself withal; and he sat down among the ashes. 9Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die. 10But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.

    The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.

  40. TEERERAI says:

    guys we can play with anything but not get as far as this playing and joking with GOD”S name one day you will definitely payback. we may do whatever we want and GOD remains silent and we think we are clever he will speak one day and it wont be good for anyone to be caught up on the wrong end GOD is there and he will not do anything to harm us so guys better find something else to joke with not GOD

  41. Billious says:

    A bit like Monty Python;
    “Always look on the bright side of life”

  42. this is really not acceptable to joke with the lord and the reality that traumatizes our fellow brothers and sisters, better make fun of julius malema and hellen zille, people are in pain and all that u care is generating money out of their griefs, respect the lord plz

  43. Wonkie, I think that there should be no holy cows, none at all. It is out there then let us talk about it and even laugh a little. It we steer clear or the holy cows then we end up with Malemas’ ruling the roost. Like Hitler et al; Musolini; Ray et al etc. That really threatens man kind, not a cartoon that tests the holy cows we create and maintain. Keep it up and let’s debate these issues.

  44. tudar keyi says:

    its not that funny at all because ive heared and seen better jokes from wonkie,i think you can do better than that,its not that im offended its just the cartoon is just boring

  45. God is almighty. Don’t mock with Him. We are in the end times and things will get worse. Use your talent wisely.

  46. Ol’ Pliny

    I like the point you made about what the insurers, banks and and lawyers call “an act of God”. What they do NOT mention is on what religion or holy book their view of God is based. Neither is it clear how many gods they think really exist or which one they consider to be the chief-god or the one to be blamed for disasters.

    However, God the Creator and Owner of all that exist, created this planet as well as the man to whom He gave dominion over this planet (Gen. 1:28) but, then that man choose to no longer have the mind of God, (Gen.3:6 ), but to rather have a mind of his own; doing so, man lost:
    1.) the image of God ( see Gen. 5:1 and 3 )
    2.) the ability/knowledge to rule this planet the way it’s Creator had in mind for it to be ruled/managed.

    The result is that, the more man become aware of things (like the ozone), he takes dominion over those things without the needed knowledge; logically, the more disasters we will have. Therefore, I rule that the disasters we have today, are not acts of God, but are acts of man ruled by satan who became the god of this world( John 12:31 and 2 Cor. 4:4) because of what happened -> Gen.3:6.

    Scorpio< Birch Acres,

    You have the cat by the tail – Christianity is taught by God Himself and Christ never taught Gnostisism. Those man-made "churches" you refer to, just teach another religion like the man-made pagan bull of buddah, mohamed, Edgar Cayce and other fools and are NOT the church of God.
    In God's church, there is only ONE teacher/preacher and His Name is Jesus the Christ. If you encourage people to read the bull of men (like Edgar Cayce, buddah or mohamed or who the hell else) you are the same as the man-made churhes you refer to as you all teach and believe the bulldust-teachings of men!
    Rather ask the one and only true God to be your Teacher and you can NOT be lied to … kind of logic, is it not? Strange that the obvious is seldom seen by the "big and wise"!

  47. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    I wonder who has the cat by the tail? You are obviously unread in matters of history of the church etc. Take your blinkers off.

  48. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    Read books on history. The Christian Church as we know it was engineered in the early Dark Ages by the Romans in an effort to restore their declining empire. Many so-called Christians I am aquainted with carry out acts socially and otherwise unacceptable during the week, then attend church on Sunday and ask forgiveness. My God is the God of the universe. He is the universe. I am part of the universe, ergo I am part of God. As such, I endeavor to live my life righteously on a daily basis, not only on Sunday. Before passing egoistical judgement on Edgar Cayce, make an effort to read up on him and his work.

  49. Ol' Pliny says:

    Dirkie, methinks there are almost as many theories of life as there are people.
    A person I spoke to once uttered things similar to Scorpio: “Every thing is God,
    This pencil is God, that wall is God, I am God…” Fancy that! He obviously created
    himself – albeit an awful bad job. A certain scientologist told me he was ‘cleared’.
    (Fairly harmless loonies are. They take up space for the more dangerous). He told me that ‘cleared’
    people are continuously re-incarnated, but without recollection of their previous lives. How droll, how
    very droll. He cannot remember a thing, except that he had a previous life. He was a very knowledgeable
    person of higher education, somewhat like Tom Cruise and John Travalto.

    Imagination beats education any day. Ask any astrologer. Many moons ago, (full ones I guess) a local
    magazine carried a series of stories by a certain dame who was swept off her feet by an Adonis from
    some other planet who landed near her. (He spoke impeccable Oxford English, nogal) I bet that type
    of person laughs heartedly when they hear of Sangomas reading the bones.

    Ag, man, here’s a joke to cheer you all: This guy asks his father for a R5000 loan as he wants to go to
    Wits University to study medicine. His dad says, “You’re nuts! You only have grade six. You need a
    much higher education for that.” The son then argues, “But Dad, I only want to be a Wits doctor.”
    Now, there’s a very bright guy.

  50. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    I make no further comment. Ignorance is bliss. Right now I must concern myself with more alarming matters – the recent utterings and threats of Julius and his followers. Check out Face Book.

  51. Ol' Pliny says:

    My recent comments were based on enlightening people who doggedly stick to their
    philosophies. To be acceptable, all beliefs must be based on concrete facts, before
    they can move beyond being mere theories. During the past 40 years I attended quite a number
    of discussions. One in particular always comes to mind when I consider how gullible people can
    be. The man is dead, so I will not mention his name except to mention that he was widely known
    as a numerologist. He even appeared on TV once. Lets call him Charles Mason because his first
    name did have seven characters and his last had five. He believed that numerology determines
    one’s entire life. EG: If your name consists of eight characters, you are destined to become well
    versed in everything. Well, what he then did was to change his name to have 8 characters, EG:
    ‘Cha Mason’. IOW, he tried to reverse history. Numerologists, like most other philosophies,
    came and went. (Acts 5:36,37) It is currently mostly associated with the occult.

    On my part, it’s hard to beat that which many authorities keep saying of Jesus, the Christ:
    “Never before in history has one person made such an impact on humanity. After 2000 years, his
    sayings remain the greatest cause of changes to the personalities of mankind.”
    Based on the above, I expect we will soon see the end to Edgar Cayce and his adherents.

  52. OL’ Pliny,

    Being in africa, we are apt to see the end of all things ( before africa was named, there were people here called the vandals 😉 ) but the end of Jesus the Christ Who IS the Word of His power, will never be seen.

    Ja, strange that because people with a brain cell or two get so impressed with their own intelect that they fall for L. Ron Hubbard and his “church of scientology” and his “happyness foundation” ( must say, all the work he has put in his scam amazed me..there even are scientology dictionaries) to eventually have a higher IQ and better smelling breath..lol

    “every thing is god” lol..they think only one level deep.. if everything is God, there is no creation and a god without a creation, is no god at all! As a matter of fact, to exist, alone, nobody around, is ETERNAL DEATH..it’s better not to be than to be in that state! The direction of all sin is towards this eternal death. God is LIFE and therefore radically the opposite called “eternal life” and the direction of all righteousness, where everybody regard others HIGHER than the “self”, is ETERNAL LIFE. Because of this, He had no problem to become a man and reveal eternal life to mankind. ( Php 2:6 -> )This is my “theory of life” as revealed to me by this living God Who, when He came to this planet as a man, was called Jesus….today still this world count the years 2010 to celebrate the fact that they “killed Him”….doing so, they acknowledge Him 🙂 every time they log the time and date…lol…what a awesome God we have! lol He understood and took note of this world’s message when they crusified Him and therfore allow this world to destroy themself…and blame Him for it ( Rev. 16:8 to mention just one example found in revelation)

    We are now moving into that time wher earthlings will blame Him for they plaques because He has power OVER them, but they refuse to repent to Him so He can use His power over these things…

    82 God staan in die vergadering van die gode; Hy hou gerig te midde van die gode.
    2 Hoe lank sal julle onregverdig oordeel en partydig wees vir die goddelose mense? Sela.
    3 Doen reg aan die swakke en die wees; gee aan die ellendige en die arme sy reg.
    4 Red die swakke en behoeftige, bevry hulle uit die hand van die goddelose mense.
    5 Hulle weet nie en verstaan nie; hulle loop rond in duisternis: al die fondamente van die aarde wankel.
    6 Ek self het gesê: Julle is gode, en julle is almal seuns van die Allerhoogste –
    7 nogtans sal julle sterwe soos mense, en soos een van die vorste sal julle val.
    8 Staan op, o God, oordeel die aarde! Want U het erfbesit van al die nasies.
    Die Bybel: Ou Vertaling, (Suid–Afrika: Bybelgenootskap Van Suid–Afrika) 1953.

    A Psalm of Asaph.

    1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods. 2How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. 3Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. 4Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked. 5They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.
    6I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. 7But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. 8Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.
    The King James Version, (Cambridge: Cambridge) 1769.

    the above Psalm 82 from the Bible explain who these gods are that are playing the games because they wander in darkness like drunks…

    Scorpio< Birch Acres, don't you think the above contain more than that of that edgar cayce you mentioned?

  53. Ol' Pliny says:

    Dirkie, allow me advise you again my friend. We both grew up during the days of the
    National Party. Forget apartheid for a few moments. That Government was very God
    fearing. Things seen nowadays were ‘verboten’, IE: Lotteries, gambling, liquor sales
    on Sunday and religious holidays, blasphemy, abortions, and others.
    Those days we had the upper hand when it came to opposition to Christianity, or promoting any anti-
    God activities. We all know by now that the ANC alliance includes godless parties which harbour no
    objection to Karl Marx’s maxim, “Religion is the opium of the people.” Yes, the Ruskies still have
    a form of religion, IE: The Russian Orthodox’. But, it’s state controlled by Putin himself, who has
    effective banned all other Christian religions.

    Now here’s the point I wish to make: It’s fine to quote one or two scriptures in this blog, merely as a
    reference, or in support of an argument. But you should not use scriptures in an effort to change the
    mindset of opposers. They most likely heard all those things before. There are better ways to defend
    Bible truths – Use logic. For example: 500 years before Christ came to this earth, Confucius stated
    the following: “Do not do unto others what you would not have them do unto you.” People quote
    that nearly every day. It’s negative. In other words, “Do not do anything bad to others.” Why omit
    the doing of good? When Jesus came to earth, in his unbeatable sermon, he said: “Therefore, whatever
    you want men to do to you, do also to them…” This is just one example of the superiority of Jesus’
    teachings. The only way to maintain a healthy social atmosphere, is to take the initiative and endeavour
    to do good to all.

    By contrast, Yoga, Buddhism, Scientology and all the others mentioned here are based on self-seeking.
    How will that save the world, or promote peace?

  54. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    Ol’ Pliny, I have a thirst for knowledge and read many books presenting a multitude of theories. Edgar Cayce and The Bible are just two of the many, many books I have read on the matters under discussion. You do not agree with my theories and I do not necessarily agree with yours. I am not here to save or change the world – my days of changing things are over and believe me, I created changes in law, commerce and trends in my life time. I am now at that age where I fear I am running out of railway tracks. It is natural then to study for my finals as it were. The Bible was also written by mortals, the first four Gospels of the NT having been penned more than a hundred years after the death of Christ.

  55. Ol' Pliny says:

    Scorpio, it was not my intention to convert anyone, but rather, to let all see the
    futility of ‘so-called’ Gnostics, with heads filled with unusable knowledge that
    eventually end up as dust, or as manure like the psalmist said. (Psalm 83:10)
    Our case rests on that matter. This message concerns your latest views, IE:

    “The Bible was also written by mortals, the first four Gospels of the NT having been penned
    more than a hundred years after the death of Christ.” Unquote. You may well have read the
    bible, (or parts of it) but you have obviously not studied it. Do you really believe God should
    have come down himself, or sent his Angels come and write the Bible for us, then remain here
    for hundreds of years making copies in all languages, ad infinitum? No! He could read men’s
    hearts. (Jer 1:4, 5) His angels dictated his word to those whom he could trust. (Acts 7:53)
    These included his faithful servants Moses, the prophets and the apostles.

    Your argument that the NT was written more than 100 years after Christ’s death smacks of pure
    ignorance. How on earth could the apostles write their experiences before their travels? The NT
    could only be written after the twelve apostles completed Judea first, then Samaria. The apostle
    Paul made three missionary trips to Asia, Macedonia and Greece before being carted off to Rome
    possibly to face lions in the Roman circus. They were constantly guided by Holy Spirit, before,
    during and after their travels. (Acts 1:8; 2:1-4; 16:6, 7; Matt 28:20)

  56. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    Ol’ Pliny, you have your beliefs based on your research and I have mine. They differ, so shall we leave it at that? My area of research appears to have differed from yours hence we will continue to have differences of opinion. Judge not lest ye be judged. To infer that I am ingnorant without knowledge of my educational achievements nor knowledge of the two professions in which I am considered proficient by others, is a little over the top in my opinion. The matter is closed.

  57. I guess i get to emotional with anything that has God or Jesus in it for the bible says “Thou shall not take my name in vain” That is a command from God. People lets respect one another set an example for julius!

  58. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    So Julius dodged the traditional Pedi circumcision ritual? Pity. Now we cannot say that there is no end to the pr*ck.

  59. Ol’ Pliny, Scorpio and others

    People who believe and know the Bible is the Word of God, quote these scriptures in order to bring God’s answer to the subject of this blog, not my answer, God’s answer; let God be God, and let Him speak quoting His Word and he will use His Spirit and that quoted Word to make Himself known to those He selected.

    None of us can save anybody…God save the ones He selected even before the foundation of this part of creation that we mortal earthlings are aware of…but God saves out of this world by means of His Son who asked for His Spirit, to confirm His Word and the witness of those who were saved. John 1:1 – 14

  60. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    I have just watched and listened to Pink Floyd Live performing ‘Comfortably Numb’ on You Tube (at full volume). There is a God. Who else could have inspired such brilliance and absolutely outstanding musicianship? But then, one could say the same about Liszt, Chopin and Beethoven.

  61. Scorpio Birch Acres

    Glad te learn that you can see the genius of pink floyd and the other’s you mentioned. The greatest of them all…BACH wrote all his music to the glory of God!

  62. God’s theory is as good as bad time stories, i read about when i was younger, and for me this is just updated bad time story. I’m laughing out loud.

  63. Mageba,

    Do you only tell your children “bad time stories”….what about a “good time story”?
    Let me give you the answer, because God is a theory to laugh out loud about, you heathen have no “good time stories” to tell as you foolish heathen only have “bad times” to tell stories about!
    Why is it that africa is forever the “beggar” and the west is alway the giver”? Could it be that God is on the side of those who know Him? Maybe next time you weant to tell a “bad time story”, tell the story about the 250 God fearing Boere who killed more than 10 000 jumping mad heathen savages !!

  64. Hastheworldgonecrazy... says:

    Up to your old nonsense again, eh, Dirk? If I were trying to find myself spiritually, your comments today would have put me right off your “God”! What kind of creator could allow even the lowliest of his creations suffer and die at the hands of his so-called “God fearing” creations? How dare you, as a mere mortal, call your God’s creations “jumping mad savages”? You, Dirk, are not a Christian! I’m not sure exactly what you are, but you’re bigoted, biased, racist, self-opinionated, judgemental,……..Hey! You’re a white Julius Malema!

  65. Hastheworldgonecrazy... says:

    Oh! And by the way, Dirk. The only reason Bach wrote religious music was because he was paid to do it! It was his job!

  66. As much as we don’t like to admit it, the Earth is a closed system, and we are part of that system. Whatever small injustices we perpetrate, polluting, consuming vicariously, behaving like ignorant selfish children, there are consequences. The system reacts. Pity it is often the innocent that suffer. If there was justice, the USA would be a nice crater slowly filling with water.

  67. Ol' Pliny says:

    Flytrap, that’s a mouthful, and the way I like to hear people speak. Circa 1970
    when I battled to give up smoking, the effects of the smoke coming from my
    colleagues at work made it terribly difficult to stop. Being the only odd one out
    the odds were against me when I suggested that the air around us belongs to me
    as well. That’s the old ‘I’m alright Jack’ attitude of this world.

    Authorities all over the world pump sewage into the sea; the water table in some countries is badly
    contaminated. It’s our world they are contaminating. Few countries really want peace, including
    the US, Iran and Palestinians. It’s our lives they want.

    I’ve had many discussions with various Gnostic and philosophical groups during my lifetime, and
    they are all in some way or other contradictory in their theories. Some of them feel that warfare is
    and essential part of the evolutionary system. It is inborn so as to maintain a stronger and more
    intelligent society. They even back up there theories by saying everyone should be grateful that
    there are wars, and they name among other reasons; we would never have had the Internet today
    had it not been brought about as a necessity during the last World War.

    I really, truly and sincerely sorry for mankind that they are on the irreversible path to destruction.
    When I mention to others that Christianity is the final and only hope for mankind, I’m regarded
    as a Jesus freak. Well, at least I have a hope – even should it prove unsuccessful.

    Can you please explain the final part of your comment, “If there was justice, the USA would be a
    nice crater slowly filling with water.” Perhaps my aging wits fail me.

  68. guys we are living in the last days this world as we know it is passing away and we all need to believe in the Lord Jesus, one day each and every one of us will stand before Him and give an account of how we lived our lives and for more info i would like to encourage you as you read this to also read through the book of Revelation in the bible to get a clearer picture

  69. Ol’ Pliny

    I am very sure that Flytrap is some muslim, as they are the ones that hate americans most!
    I have never seen a people more in love with their possesions than the indian muslim community ( I do think it’s wise to look after one’s stuff – worshipping it is somethinfg else)…yet they are the ones who keep blaming americans for being super consumers!

    What Flytrap and his kind does not realize is that without the americans, they will have fewer gods(possesions) to worship! 😉

    @ Flytrap

    If the americans are such big consumers, they’ll just consume the water flowing into their crater faster than the rate it’s flowing in! 😉

  70. Hastheworldgonecrazy…

    Pay attention to My God’s Word (Gen. 5:1 and 3 while keeping Gen.3:6 in mind) and you will se He did not create these people to be jumping mad, ON THE DAY HE CREATED THEM…they became like that for choosing to be His enemies!

    Secondly, Bach wrote music because my God gave him the talent to do so…you reason just like these jumping mad africans ( and I call them that because when ever I see a bunch of them together, they jump up and down like mad people do all the time!) who never take “talent” into account – the reason why all the wheels of everything they are “trying” to manage are falling off!

    You see, when getting paid to do something is the only motive for doing it, the wheels WILL fall off!

  71. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    Having witnessed striking in action in central Kempton Park recently, ‘jumping mad savages’ is a rather apt description. Who else but savages would empty refuse all over the street, stone passing cars, break shop windows and water pipes? The irony is that those same people (for want of a better word) have to clean up their own mess. When those who became the early Egyptians arrived in Africa, I quote….’There is an indication that many of the native Egyptians of that period were deficient physically, mentally or morally’. It would seem that not much has changed in Africa over the past twelve thousand years or so.

  72. Scorpio Birch Acres

    I believe Apartheid is to be blamed for the fact that africa can’t change….but to the englishspeakers of this world who are the oponents of apartheid, I just want to mention that apartheid was introduced to keep the jumping, dancing, stone throwing, window breaking, littering, sommersolt-making, singing, ancestor worshipping, dust making, raping, stealing, killing, corrupt, short sighted, striking, mad savages away from the civilized.

    The moment these fools don’t get paid for cleaning up their own mess, they MAY not mess the place next time they strike.

    I can’t wait for the last day to come because in that day my God is going to introduce apartheid as well by….the majority will be placed together in a small place (Mbombella or hell) and the minority will be safeguarded from the majority by making the seperation so big that there can no longer be discrimination ( Verwoerd was a genius! ).

  73. Ol' Pliny says:

    Dirkie, your point about littering is that of everyone and his neighbour. Now someone
    please tell us why the Municipality did not lay a charge of mass littering against the
    Worker’s Union. In any first world country, a guilty verdict would have been successful
    based on the fact that the unions supported it, and in all probability proposed it.
    A follow up law suit would most surely have resulted in the guilty union having to pay Municipal costs to clean up, as well as damages to bins and properties.

    Moreover, while the strike was on, all Municipal offices were closed. So, they tell us to travel to
    Pick and Pay ot Checkers, to pay our account to avoid being fined for late payment.
    It all beggars belief.

  74. Ol’ Pliny brother,

    The minicipalities also supported the littering as these people still believe they are involved in their “struggle” against whites…also the reason why the littering only took place in white ereas..I took a drive and found no littering in the townships.

    All the rate payer’s associations need to mobilse the public to no longer pay rates and taxes for srvices not being delivered. They now have a legal reason to to start their own municipalities that will deliver services – meaning they will have to employ whites since a recent court ruling rendered affirmative action ilegal! Well, I could see that 15 years ago…looks like I am more up to date with the law than these affirmative action judges we have – what a circus!

    It’s just a question of time and this ANC circus will outlaw unions in order to keep themselves in power – they better move fast doing that as some union leaders have their eyes on the president’s job! 😉

  75. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    I recently read an interesting book which included, among other matters, the order of the evolution of mankind. According to this book, the order of evolution is as follows: First was the Red skin, followed by the White, then the Yellow, Brown and finally the Black. The apparent time period between the White evolution and the Black is a hundred thousand years. But the wheel seems to have turned. The Red is now virtually extinct, the White is deteriorating (thanks to the USA) and the Yellow is now in the forefront of technology and advancement.

  76. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    And before someone says mankind started with Adam and Eve, where did Adam’s sons get their wives from?

  77. Scorpio Birch Acres

    Still an evolutionist in this modern day? You read the books of liers or very outdated ones. Modern DNS technology brought to light that there is NO MISSING LINK and that all species were created. Then Scorpio, you you had only little knoledge of the Bible, you would know that the names woman were not recorded.

    Maybe you think the yellow fools from China are at the forefront of technology…no they are only on the forefront of being copycats and of cource their labourforces are 1000 times more productive than other nations that mostly deliver labourers – the whites are the inventors.

    Some more news to you would be that indians are fast becomming the most people on the planet and will soon be more than the chincs! Most computer spares are manufactured by indians.

    Think about it, yhe chincs were the biggest nation on this planet for centuries and should have had the biggest economy also but, the americans have and the gap between the chinc economy and that of the chincs is so wide that I don’t even have word to describe that to you.

    Below is a remark from dr. Marc Faber…

    “The South African government is sending each of us a R9,756 rebate. If we spend that money at the PLAZA, the money goes to China. If we spend it on gasoline it goes to the Arabs. If we buy a computer, it will go to India. If we purchase fruits and vegetables it will go to Mexico, Honduras and Guatemala. If we purchase a good car, it will go to Germany. If we purchase useless crap, it will go to Taiwan and none of it will help the South African economy.
    The only way to keep that money here at home is to spend it on prostitutes and booze, since these are the only products still produced in SA ..
    Let’s boost our economy!”

  78. Scorpio Birch Acres says:

    Whoa! Stop the train. Before I am told I smack of ignorance, let me correct my last statement. Abel, Adam’s son, did not have a wife. Both Cain and Abel were unmarried when Cain murdered Abel. God banished Cain from Eden and he went into the land of Nod. There, his wife bore him a son, Enoch. Cain then built a city and named it Enoch after his son. As a former government tax fraud investigator, I must query the obvious: Where did Cain’s wife suddenly appear from? Was the city of Enoch built by the three of them being the only humans around? Why would three people require a whole city for themselves?

  79. Ol' Pliny says:

    Adam noticed that the animals came in pairs, male and female, but not one of
    these were comparable to him in any way so as to become a helper to him.
    (Gen 2:20) At that point God created out of Adam’s own body, a complement of
    himself. (Gen 2:23) Adam was 800 years old when he fathered Seth. During
    those years he became father to sons and daughters. (Gen 5:4) Seeing that he lived for another 130
    years, it is possible Adam had hundreds of offspring.

    No matter what a person learns, bigotry has to placed aside, so that a matter can be judged on the basis
    of putting faith at some point. Therefore, it must be accepted that Cain married one of his sisters. The
    reason why Adam had such a long lifespan, was because he was created perfect. His dying process
    lasted much longer because of this. (Rom 5:12) Likewise, his genes were strong, unlike those of people
    of later times, whose genes were weakened. Despite this, soon after the flood, Noah’s daughters who
    were unable to find suitable husbands, laid down with their father in order to have children of their own.
    The children suffered no ill effects, because they successfully carried on with the lineage.

    Quoting Scorpio> Was the city of Enoch built by the three of them being the only humans around?
    Why would three people require a whole city for themselves? (unquote)
    God cursed the earth on account of Cain murdering his brother and his subsequent insolence. People
    after him would now suffer as a result, and they hated him. He had to flee to a place of safety in case
    they caught up with him. Nod, the land he went to, which means Refugees, was probably an arrangement
    of God, which he also introduced in the days of ancient Israel. (Num 35:6) He is indeed a caring God,
    who lets the rain fall on the bad as well as the good. (Matt 5:43-48)

    At Gen 5:6-32 the Bible records the lineage from Seth to Noah, and later down to the Messiah.
    Cain, having angered God, was henceforth ‘a nobody’ and it serves no purpose to record either the
    history of Cain, or that of Methuselah who lived the longest on this earth.

    As far as Cain is concerned, it was probably in his interests to produce as many offspring as possible.
    Who cares how long he lived, but it was probably also many hundreds of years. Just look how South
    Africa’s population grew into scores of cities in only 500 years.

    Incidentally, did you know that medical science has discovered that our ribs are the only part of our
    bodies that keep generating new tissue once placed inside our bodies. Any other organs, such as an
    ear that is grafted on, remains just an ear. How marvelous that God chose that part of Adam’s
    anatomy to generate Eve. His creation was complete on the sixth day, that is why he did not create
    a brand new Eve. Just ponder on that.

  80. Ol’ Pliny
    Very good post indeed! 🙂 May all those who wonder if the Bible is the Word of God ponder on the fact of the rib only discovered recently! Seeing we’re in africa where braincells are few, I may have to help them ponder asking the question…”How would the Bible contain this medical knowledge only discovered recently?”

  81. Ol' Pliny says:

    Dirkie, I have a treasure chest of Bible gems which I have built up over
    many years. I could have mentioned more in the previous post. For instance,
    all evolutionists agree that every race on earth came from the same original
    stock. The Bible had it first. Adam gave his wife the name Eve, which really
    means ‘The mother of all those living on the earth. (Gen 3:20) All scientists are in agreement with
    the order of creation. The ark’s measurements were 6 to 1, which is the same formula used by
    modern ship builders. The ratio of sea to land is 6 to 1. Almost every thing in nature is based on that
    formula, which is really 1.68 to 1. The whorls in a seashell have that ratio. Take a look at your
    forefinger. The distance from the point to the first joint is 1.68 to 1. As is that joint to the knuckle.
    Likewise the ratio from the knuckle to the wrist. The spiraled arms of galaxies, etc…

    6+1 = 7, which is God’s holy number. Everything God declares in sevens can never be changed. Take
    For instance the almanac. The Jewish have theirs, another for Islam, China and the Western world.
    Augustus Caesar took a day from February and put it onto August to honour himself. These things
    God allows us to change, but, no one will ever be able to change the 7 day week he declared.
    A few of the prophecies in the Bible depend on a seven day week. For instance, Daniel’s prophecy
    of 70 weeks to the arrival of the Messiah. Daniel broke this down to 62+7+1.
    These are based on ‘A day for a year’ (Num 4:34; Eze 4:4-6) The last (1) week was from the year
    29 AD to 36 AD (7 days) which Daniel said would be the seven years that the Messiah would keep
    the covenant in force, but that he would die in the middle of the week. (3 ½ days) Well, it did turn
    out that Jesus was put to death after a ministry of 3 ½ years..

    There are too many scriptures to mention all the occurrences where the God given number 7 remained
    unchanged, but just take for example a few in Genesis: Gen 4:15 ; 7:4; 41:33-36, etc…For a certainty,
    I will not allow myself to be drawn into further discussions on this issue. It is far too complex to
    explain in this forum. As it is, we already drifted away from the original topic.

  82. Ol' Pliny says:

    Quoting Dirkie>
    “How would the Bible contain this medical knowledge only discovered recently?”
    Yes indeed. Consider the health laws God gave Israel. They were not to eat flesh
    of unclean animals, IE: predators on land or bottom feeders in the waters.
    They had to properly dispose of human wastes in areas outside of their camps.
    That’s not all. Consider that, by being obedient to the Bible’s moral code, there would never have
    been incurable diseases such as AIDS. What about that blinding pestilence science ? Psalm 91:6

    Solomon wisely compared to circulation to the wheel that pumps at the well. (Eccl 12:6) If William
    Harvey read his Bible he would have credited the Lord instead of laying claim to discovering it.
    Pythagoras circa 500 BC and Christopher Columbus 15th century used scientific knowledge to calculate
    that the earth was round. Over 3000 years ago, Job and Isaiah by divine inspiration knew this.
    Job 26:7 and Isa 40:22

  83. Ol’ Pliny
    You are not off topic….those wonderfull things you mentioned, are far above man’s best thoughts and took years to be noticed by us BUT are less than a game to our awesome GOD!

  84. It sounds like you’re making problems yourself by trying to solve this issue instead of looking at why their is a problem in the first place

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